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Hillary's email scandal grows

Kurt Barlow
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LAST March, Hillary Clinton promised that not a single email on her home-brew server was top secret.

Since then, at least 1,730 emails she sent or received contained classified material, some so secret that they may never be released to the public.  None of what she turned over were actual emails, rather paper printouts as she wiped her server - which meant thousands of emails she deemed "personal" were never turned over at all:

"The State Department released a new batch of 1,116 pages of Clinton’s emails Friday evening in response to a court order. Of those, 64 contain classified information. All are at the confidential level, which is the lowest level of classification.

None of Clinton's emails was marked as classified during her tenure, State Department officials say, but intelligence officials say some material was clearly classified at the time. Her aides also sent and received classified information."
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Many people have wondered how she has not been charged with a myriad of crimes, yet no one in Obama's scandal ridden administration has been fired much less charged with a crime.  Given the amount of dirt and slime Hillary would be willing to let fly if the veil of protection was lifted, it's doubtful she ever will be charged....

As long as a Democrat is President.


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article61383137.html
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Warpig
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Well, now that you mention it:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-as-president-i-would-prosecute-clinton/article/2583925

Trump: As president, I would prosecute Clinton


Donald Trump said Monday night that he believes Hillary Clinton will likely get away with her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state, but said that as president, it's only fair that he'd look to prosecute Clinton.

Fox News' Sean Hannity asked Trump in front of a live Nevada audience if his attorney general would go after Clinton should an investigation find she broke the law while serving in the Obama administration.

"You have no choice," Trump replied. "In fairness, you have to look into that."

"She seems to be guilty," he said. "But you know what, I wouldn't even say that."
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Kurt Barlow
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AND it gets worse as the CIA and other spy agencies told Congress that yes, there were several top secret emails sent from the Bungler's server:

"U.S. spy agencies have told Congress that Hillary Clinton's home computer server contained some emails that should have been treated as "top secret" because their wording matched sections of some of the government's most highly classified documents, four sources familiar with the agency reports said.

The two reports are the first formal declarations by U.S. spy agencies detailing how they believe Clinton violated government rules when highly classified information in at least 22 email messages passed through her unsecured home server.

The State Department has already acknowledged that the emails contained top secret intelligence, though it says they were not marked that way. It has not previously been clear if the emails contained full classified documents or only some information from them."

http://news.yahoo.com/spy-agencies-clinton-emails-closely-matched-top-secret-213108714.html
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Kurt Barlow
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And the tragi-comedy that is the current regime of the Federal government got just a bit more silly today as Secretary of State John "Lurch" Kerry claimed he had no idea Hillary was using an unauthorized email account, despite receiving emails from it.  From the Daily Caller:

“I had no knowledge what kind of email she had, I was given an email address and I sent it to her,” Kerry told California Rep. Darrell Issa of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

Asked if he ever looked at Clinton’s email address during those exchanges, Kerry demurred.

“I didn’t think about it in that respect, I didn’t know if she had an account or what the department gave her at that point in time or what she was operating with. I had no knowledge,” he said.

Kerry has so far answered few questions in public about what he knew about Clinton’s email account.

And despite his clearly knowing that Clinton used the email address HDR22@clintonemail.com, Kerry’s State Department appears to have waited nearly 18 months before taking the initiative to obtain Clinton’s emails."
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Of course, Lurch is also the guy who has repeatedly warned Americans that mankind will be made extinct by global warming, the same guy who didn't go to the Charlie Hebdo tribute in Paris, and the same guy who when the rest of the world - including liberals - shit on him for not going, then brought James Taylor to France to sing a song.  He's also the guy who continues to claim ISIS is not Islamic.

In other words, par for the course from these buffoons.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/25/john-kerry-says-he-had-no-knowledge-what-king-of-email-hillary-used-at-state-dept-when-he-was-emailing-her-video/
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Kurt Barlow
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So the conflict between those trying to actually do their jobs properly - the FBI in this case - and those who continue to protect Hillary - Obama & Kerry - is getting louder.

As is apparent to pretty much anyone with a pulse, Hillary broke a myriad of laws by using her home-brew server, exposing both agents in the field and Americans in general to danger because of her reckless behavior.  And that's just what's been confirmed by the released emails.  As noted above, Hillary erased tens of thousands of other emails she deemed "personal" and did not print out their contents.

Given her assertion that not a single email was "secret" it's kinda hard to believe that some of those "personal" emails weren't in fact smoking gun pay-for-play deals with corporations and foreign governments.

Which is why there's growing noise that the FBI will indeed bring an indictment against Hillary, and that if Obama's Attorney General, Loretta Lynch, ignores it, there will be hell to pay.  From Fox News:

"Legal experts say the assignment of career Justice Department attorneys to the case shows the FBI probe has progressed beyond the initial referral, or "matured," giving agents access to the U.S. government’s full investigative tool box, including subpoena power for individuals, business or phone records, as well as witnesses.

The Associated Press reported earlier this month that career lawyers were involved, but Lynch's comments are the most expansive to Congress.

"If the FBI makes the case that Hillary Clinton mishandled classified information and put America's security at risk, will you prosecute the case?” Republican Congressman John Carter asked Lynch during a budget hearing.

"Do you know of any efforts underway to undermine the FBI's investigation? And please look the American people in the eye and tell us what your position is as you are the chief prosecutor of the United States," Carter pressed.

Lynch replied, "...that matter is being handled by career independent law enforcement agents, FBI agents as well as the career independent attorneys in the Department of Justice. They follow the evidence, they look at the law and they'll make a recommendation to me when the time is appropriate."
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Shockingly, no one believes that she'll charge Hillary, even if there's a hundred smoking guns, including those at the FBI.  

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/25/lynch-confirms-career-justice-department-attorneys-involved-in-clinton-email-probe.html
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jdv
And another report indicating that Congress will be looking at what part her aides played in Hillary's treasonous activities.  As many as 20 of her aides had access to her emails...

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-02-29/conservatives-to-target-clinton-aides-after-final-e-mail-release

Look for Congress to start seeing which one of them will fold to prevent charges....

The last batch of the paper-printed emails Hillary submitted will be released to the public tonight, but the number deemed top secret or above is already sitting at over 1,800 - with some 50 plus being so secret they might never be released.

And of course, there remains the specter of the FBI recovering her erased server hard drive, or even worse for Hillary, the revelation that a foreign country like China has the contents.
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...And the State Department just classified 2 more emails as "top secret," once of which was to Barrack Obama.

Meaning, of course, that he too is part and parcel of the controversy around her unauthorized private server.  The other new email was classified by an undisclosed "law enforcement" agency, likely the CIA.

The last batch supposed to be released in the next few hours, right before Super Tuesday.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/state-department-to-withhold-two-new-hillary-clinton-emails/article/2584535
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Kurt Barlow
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And the latest (and prolly not last, given the thousands of private emails China is sitting on) batch of released emails indicate that Hillary understood that an email can be inherently classified, regardless of markings:

"A Hillary Clinton email released on Monday shows the former secretary of state questioning whether she had been forwarded classified information in an unmarked email, suggesting that she was well aware that classified information can be classified regardless of if it is “marked” or “unmarked.”

In defending against critics who say she improperly mishandled classified information on her personal email account and private email server, Clinton has said that she did nothing wrong because none of the hundreds of classified emails she sent or received were “marked” as such when they were created.A Hillary Clinton email released on Monday shows the former secretary of state questioning whether she had been forwarded classified information in an unmarked email, suggesting that she was well aware that classified information can be classified regardless of if it is “marked” or “unmarked.”

In defending against critics who say she improperly mishandled classified information on her personal email account and private email server, Clinton has said that she did nothing wrong because none of the hundreds of classified emails she sent or received were “marked” as such when they were created."
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At this point, more then 2,000 of her emails have been deemed classified or a whopping 1 out of 15 emails sent.  It was exactly a year ago this month that Hillary promised the American people that "not a single" email was classified.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/29/email-undermines-hillarys-unmarked-classified-info-defense/#ixzz41ep6Qfr3

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jdv
An apropos pic....


Oh oh - Hillary's IT guys just given immunity from prosecution to testify against Hillary:

"The Department of Justice has granted immunity to former Hillary Clinton IT staffer Bryan Pagliano in the FBI investigation into Clinton’s potential mishandling of classified information.

Pagliano maintained Clinton’s private email server while she served as Secretary of State. She paid the State Department IT specialist privately to maintain the private server housed at her New York residence. A senior law enforcement official revealed that Pagliano has now been granted immunity, according to the Washington Post. The FBI and Justice Department as well as Pagliano’s lawyer have declined to comment on the information.

Pagliano previously asserted his 5th Amendment right, refusing to testify at a September hearing in front of the Judiciary Committee regarding the investigation into Clinton’s emails.

“Given that the committee is unable to obtain [Pagliano’s] testimony at this time, I am seeking copies of his official State Department emails relevant to the Committee’s inquiry before proceeding to consider whether it might be appropriate to grant him immunity and compel his testimony,” read a December letter from Sen. Charles Grassley to Secretary of State John Kerry and revealed by Politico.

The State Department replied that it could not locate the emails being requested. Also revealed in the Grassley letter was that the FBI had seized the computer Pagliano used during his time with the State Department.

Pagliano served on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign. He was hired as an IT specialist for the State Department in 2009. That was the same year that President Barack Obama appointed Clinton to the position of Secretary of State."
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With as many as 20 people who had access to Hillary's email, there's bound to be a few people willing to roll on Hillary, if the pressure is asserted.  This is the first person associated with the case offered such immunity... there'll be more to come if the Feds are serious about pursuing this case.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/02/hillary-clinton-staffer-who-set-up-email-server-gets-immunity/
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jdv
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The news of immunity plus growing rumors that Hillary will be interviewed by the FBI must have the New York Times scared, as they floated this article assuring readers that the FBI often interviews people before closing an investigation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/us/politics/as-presidential-campaign-unfolds-so-do-inquiries-into-hillary-clintons-emails.html?_r=0

Of course, the FBI also tries to interview people they want for crimes - a tiny detail the Times forgets to remind its readers about.  The Times article also describes some of what the FBI is doing - looking at time stamps on emails to see if they've been altered - oddly specific detail as the FBI only recently admitted they were even officially investigating Hillary.

One person at the Justice Department told the Washington Post: “There was wrongdoing. But was it criminal wrongdoing?”

From the Daily Caller:  "Pagliano may hold the key to that question. The IT director on Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign, Pagliano was hired as deputy chief information officer at the State Department in May 2009. Part of his job there was to manage Clinton’s server, which hosted her personal email address and was kept at her home in New York.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/02/justice-department-grants-immunity-to-hillary-clintons-email-server-technician/#ixzz41qYh0nZn

Memories.... of when you didn't have to plead the 5th after taking taxpayer money to set up an illegal and manifestly insecure server:

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Warpig
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This is incredibly serious, man.

This isn't just Hillary Bashing here, this woman is in very serious trouble.

These are not just misdemeanors, or misunderstanding, these are espionage laws, which are by their very nature extreme felonies.

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

That bolded section is for ONE occurrence of classified disclosure, please correct me if I am wrong, but would not each email constitute an individual count of disclosure of classified information?
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Two words: selective enforcement.

If not, then another two: blanket pardon.
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If there is a blanket pardon that includes Mrs Clinton, she will never hold elective office again.

She will also never be President, ever, which doesn't look likely under any scenario anyway.
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So we're left with politically motivated selective enforcement?

That also might not work either, but we shall see.

People's attention spans are usually pretty short.

Presidents may get impeached by the House, but are always acquitted by the Senate.

If they resign, they get blanket pardons.

Yeah. I doubt you can get your pardon before you enter office though.
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Kurt Barlow
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Beyond her idiot decision making, her naked greed and averace, and her endangerment of Americans and their assets, the constant & obvious protection she continues to receive from the White House has turned many people willing to take Hillary's word for it against her.

Simply put, she is a shinning example of the bifurcated legal system in this country.  If you're rich and powerful, you're likely never even to be charged regardless of how severe the crime (to wit, not a single banker or Wall Street insider has done a day in jail for the housing implosion).  If you're a normal guy, even a single pill of Vicodin can send you to prison for years, yet the smart money is that Hillary will never be charged.

That Hillary broke the law is beyond question at this point - the Clinton Foundation acts essentially as a money laundry, and that foundation took millions from foreign governments while she was Secretary of State.  That's a black & white violation of the constitution.

Does anyone really doubt that the emails she erased contained evidence of pay-to-play business deals?  Does anyone really doubt that China, Russia, N. Korea and God only knows who else raided her server?

Yet she hasn't even been questioned by the FBI.  The same FBI who ambushed citizens on a road, executing one them on a snowbank.  The same FBI that's suing Apple to give up its encryption programming.  The same FBI that investigated George Zimmerman even after his not guilty verdict.

Kinda hard not to think she's getting treatment you and would not.  It's all part and parcel of the American legal and political system which is now nearly Roman in its level of corruption.
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Kurt Barlow
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BTW, the FBI appears to be pressing forward, despite the interference from the White House:

"The FBI is investigating whether computer passwords were shared among Hillary Clinton's close aides to determine how sensitive intelligence "jumped the gap" between the classified systems and Clinton's unsecured personal server, according to an intelligence source familiar with the probe.

The source emphasized to Fox News that "if [Clinton] was allowing other people to use her passwords, that is a big problem." The Foreign Service Officers Manual prohibits the sharing of passwords.

Such passwords are required to access each State Department network. This includes the network for highly classified intelligence -- known as SCI or Sensitive Compartmented Information -- and the unclassified system, known as SBU or Sensitive But Unclassified, according to former State Department employees."
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I say "appears" because all of this is likely just smoke and mirrors, a way to claim later "Hey, we left no stone unturned & there was no criminal activity" when the AG declines to prosecute.

That the Democrat party has even remotely left itself with the possibility its candidate could be charged with treason is just insane... unless they've been assured that no such charges will be forthcoming regardless of the evidence.

All of which has not gone unnoticed by the American public. But don't worry - she's clearly the best qualified person to be President.  

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/03/fbi-investigating-if-clinton-aides-shared-passwords-to-access-classified-info.html
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Kurt Barlow
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From the WaPo today:

"Hillary Clinton wrote 104 emails that she sent using her private server while secretary of state that the government has since said contain classified information, according to a new Washington Post analysis of Clinton’s publicly released correspondence.

The finding is the first accounting of the Democratic presidential front-runner’s personal role in placing information now considered sensitive into insecure email during her State Department tenure. Clinton’s ­authorship of dozens of emails now considered classified could complicate her efforts to argue that she never put government secrets at risk.

The analysis also showed that the practice of using non-secure email systems to send sensitive information was widespread at the department and elsewhere in government."
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Oh, then I guess it's OK to do it, then lie through your teeth about it.  What the shitheels at the Post and other papers don't seem to get when they try dragging Condi Rice and Colin Powell into this is that they - or anyone else at State - aren't running for President, Hillary is.

The biggest unanswered question remains why the fuck did she go through the trouble to set up her server in the first place?  Well, besides to takes millions from foreign governments.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-private-server-wrote-104-emails-the-government-says-are-classified/2016/03/05/11e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html?

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Warpig
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Related, from the NY Post:

Hillary Clinton’s pathological need for cash

By Post Editorial Board March 6, 2016 | 8:05pm

What is up with Hillary Clinton’s compulsive lining of her own pockets?

It turns out she has her campaign paying her $250,000 a year. It’s not illegal — but most would-be presidents aren’t so venal.

And she truly doesn’t need the cash: Her net worth is $11 million to $52 million.

She’s no longer the cash-poor Arkansas first lady who in 1978 turned a $10,000 investment in cattle futures into a fast $100,000. Nor even the “dead broke” Hillary of 2001.

Not that that lasted long: The same year, she scored $8 million for her autobiography “Living History.” Then Bill landed his own $15 million book deal — followed by (in CNN’s count) $150 million in speaking fees for the power couple these last 15 years.

Don’t protest that most of those fees went to charity: That charity is the Clinton Foundation — which the family controls, which employs their key staff between campaigns and which covers the cost of their private-jet trips and other extravagances.

Which brings us to why we call her “pathological”: She keeps taking the money even though she can’t conceivably need it — and it’s bound to look horrible.

As in those speeches to Goldman Sachs and other big banks that earned her nearly $2 million over the last four years. The ones that Bernie Sanders is now using to rake her over the coals.

What was she thinking? Why not just pass on the cash — or even skip the speeches altogether? Why does she still feel the need to draw a fat salary from her campaign?

Whatever mix of greed, entitlement and profound insecurity lies behind Hillary Clinton’s strange compulsion, it’s one more thing for the voters to think about.
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So....you're paying YOURSELF to run for President?

Who DOES that?
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"Who DOES that?"

Someone who's not going to be President for one.  And a nasty, crazy, mean bitch for another.

It's a double-whammy of awful.
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