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Theresa May fucks up again

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http://news.trust.org/item/20181210154633-ygpjh

UK's May pulls vote on her divorce deal, thrusting Brexit into the unknown

* May pulls vote on her Brexit deal

* Fate of Brexit unclear

* Commons speaker calls for vote on decision to delay

By Elizabeth Piper and Kylie MacLellan

LONDON, Dec 10 (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May on Monday abruptly postponed a parliamentary vote on her Brexit deal on Monday, throwing Britain's plan to leave the European Union into chaos after admitting that she faced a rout.

May's move on the eve of the scheduled parliamentary vote opens up an array of possible outcomes, ranging from a disorderly Brexit with no deal to another referendum on EU membership. May's own position could be in jeopardy, with calls from opposition parties for her to step aside.

May said she still intended to put her deal to lawmakers. But she would first ask the EU for more "reassurances" over the main bone of contention: a "backstop" to ensure no hard border on the island of Ireland, which her critics say means Britain could end up indefinitely subject to EU rules after it leaves.

Announcing the delay, May was laughed at by some lawmakers when she said there was broad support for the deal and that she had listened carefully to different views over it - the result of 18 months of tortuous negotiations.

"If we went ahead and held the vote tomorrow the deal would be rejected by a significant margin," May told parliament, adding that she was confident it was the right deal.

"We will therefore defer the vote scheduled for tomorrow and not proceed to divide the House at this time," May said. The United Kingdom would meanwhile step up contingency planning for a no-deal Brexit when it is due to leave on March 29.

Sterling skidded to its weakest level since April 2017, falling to $1.2527. It was trading at $1.50 on the day of the 2016 Brexit referendum.

May accepted there was concern among lawmakers about the Northern Irish "backstop".

The provision is intended as an insurance policy to avoid a return to border checks between the British-ruled province and the EU-member Irish Republic. But it also goes to the heart of the Brexit dilemma: allowing Britain to set its own rules outside the EU without disrupting trade.

The backstop requires Britain to abide by some EU rules indefinitely - potentially long after it quits the bloc and gives up say in setting them - unless some future mechanism can be found to ensure a friction-free land border. That prospect is rejected both by supporters of a cleaner break with the EU and those who want to stay inside it.

BREXIT REVERSED?

May said the broader question was whether parliament wanted to deliver on the will of the people for Brexit, or open up the divisions in the world's fifth largest economy with another referendum.

"If you take a step back, it is clear that this house faces a much more fundamental question: does this house want to deliver Brexit?" May asked.

The leader of the opposition Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn, said the United Kingdom no longer had "a functioning government" and called on May to "make way" for a Labour government.

The decision to halt the vote came just hours after the EU's top court ruled that Britain could unilaterally withdraw its decision to leave the bloc on March, 29.

The government did not spell out the mechanism for delaying the vote scheduled for Tuesday.

The speaker of the lower house of parliament, John Bercow, called for lawmakers to be given a vote on the decision to defer the vote on the deal itself.

"I politely suggest that in any courteous, respectful and mature environment, allowing the house to have a say would be the right and, dare I say it, the obvious course to take," Speaker Bercow said. (Additional reporting by Costas Pitas, William James, Ben Martin, Andy MacAskill, Alastair MacDonald and Gabriela Baczynska; Writing by Guy Faulconbridge Editing by Peter Graff)


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Look, its getting VERY clear at this point the UK government has NO intention to EVER let Brexit happen.

Whatever that means to Leave voters is anyone's guess, but they marched this weekend for sure and they weren't too happy.



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Well - and to be clear, I'm no expert on modern British politics - I'm not sure she can do much more.  She called out the liberals today, telling them to be honest about their desires for no Brexit, and they were against actually enforcing the will of the people, and to put forth their own exit strategy if they weren't against exiting.

None of that will matter, because of course England is dead.  Has been for some time now, it's just that it's starting to stink.
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What she can do is this:

"We are the 5th largest economy in the world.  The number one economy in the world is offering us a new trade deal."

"Bye"

Instead, she's begging from the people who suck at her teat to be released, please, and they are saying; "Not only can you NOT leave, but we are going to punish you for trying so no one else ever does."

She is worthless and weak.
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Warpig wrote
She is worthless and weak.



I thought the Parliament had to vote on whatever happens... and she don't have the votes.

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If only she was as competent as Flounder.
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S'what I'm talking about man, does THIS look like a strong leader?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6482513/PM-frantic-tour-EU-capitals-battles-save-Brexit-plan.html

NEIN! NON! NEE! Theresa May gets a cool reception from three EU leaders on her begging tour to 'save Brexit' as Merkel, Juncker and Rutte dismiss pleas to renegotiate deal

Theresa May began European tour in The Hague after humiliating climbdown

Vote that was scheduled for today scrapped to avoid defeat by 100-plus votes

Breakfast with Dutch PM Mark Rutte before meeting Angela Merkel in Berlin

PM is holding talks with Jean-Claude Juncker and Donald Tusk in Brussels later

Mr Juncker told MEPs this morning there is 'no room for renegotiation' of deal
 


Theresa May faced a wall of EU resistance today as she staged a whirlwind tour begging for Brexit concessions.

The Prime Minister has met Dutch counterpart Mark Rutte for breakfast in the Hague, and held crucial talks with Angela Merkel in Berlin as she pleaded for help winning over furious MPs.

She is also due to head for Brussels for discussions with Donald Tusk and Jean-Claude Juncker as they desperately try to find a way through the mounting crisis.

One option being pushed by the UK is Parliament having an annual vote on whether the Irish border backstop should stay in place.

But she was given short shrift by Mrs Merkel, who insisted there is 'no way to change' the Withdrawal Agreement.

In a speech to MEPs today, EU commission president Mr Juncker delivered the same message, saying the only possibility was 'clarifying' what had been agreed.

Senior Tories fear the frantic diplomatic activity is 'pointless' because EU leaders do not believe she would follow through with no deal.

'Brussels thinks we will cave in,' one former minister told MailOnline. 'They can see that she is weak.'  

The scramble comes after Mrs May was humiliatingly forced to scrap a Commons vote on the Brexit deal to avoid catastrophic defeat.

Mrs May has left the country at a time when the threats to her position are at the highest level yet - with more Conservative MPs sending no-confidence letters, and Remainers plotting to force a second referendum.

Former minister Steve Baker urged his colleagues this morning to recognise that they face the 'certainty of failure' under Mrs May, urging them: 'You must be brave.'

He added: 'I really think it is her duty now to go.'

The number of MPs who confirmed to have written letters of no confidence has now risen to 28, after Crispin Blunt added himself to the list.

Meanwhile, Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon demanded Labour gets behind calls for another referendum, saying it is the 'only way' to resolve the impasse in Parliament.

The SNP is threatening to try to force a Commons no-confidence vote if Jeremy Corbyn does not trigger one - but the Labour leadership thinks now is not the time to try its hand.  

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Now bear in mind, President Donald J Trump PRAISED Brexit and instantly offered to start negotiating a US/UK Trade Deal without the UN and she told him to fuck off.

She is literally the worst UK leader since Chamberlain.
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Of course, she isn't a leader at all, is she?

She's a puppet.
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Oh, agreed -  she ain't no Churchill.

But then again, I'm not really sure what she can do.  England should have been out a year ago.  As soo nas that didin't happen, it was doomed.

The English people - already disarmed, their empire gone, and facing hordes of iron age invaders - would do well on either side to see just how easily their betters disregard the will of the people.
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It's been reiterated time and time again that power is gained and maintained through intimidation. Once your leadership has become traitorous to the nation and have broken down any incentive structures which gave the people strength to point where they've nearly been utterly discarded, intimidation becomes the only way to regain any power at all.

The Iron Age invaders know this on a visceral and gut level. They're wild and free when compared to the domesticated and gelded men of the West. They are willing to die in order to dominate.

As JFK said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." Except there is another possible outcome, that of domination from above and then from abroad due to an unwillingness of a broken population to fight. They just walk into the hole and cover themselves with dirt.
The West can't be saved and isn't even worth saving, if it doesn't get it's balls back.
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And May survuves a no-confedence vote:

"Zombie Theresa May stumbles through confidence vote – but how long until she finally falls?

Theresa May won the support of 200 Tory MPs tonight - but more than a third voted against her

Mrs May admitted she'd endured a "long and challenging day" and pledged to listen to the rebels who voted against her.

Less than two-thirds of MPs - 63 per cent - voted to keep Mrs May in power, fewer than expected by many observers.

The uncomfortably close result suggests it will be extremely tricky for her to get any Brexit deal signed off."
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That a British paper is openly calling her a "zombie" prolly the best indication of her popularity in England.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7957807/theresa-may-no-confidence-vote-tonight-latest/
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James Delingpole over at Breitbart has this to say:

"Ding Dong, the Witch Isn’t Dead.

Against all reason, Theresa May – the worst Prime Minister in British history – has yet again survived an attempt to boot her out of office.

This has nothing to do with her merits: she has none.

For a start, May is now unsackable for at least a year. She will also likely interpret it as an endorsement by her MPs of her Dog’s Breakfast Brexit “deal” – and consequently grow more determined than ever to ram it through parliament. Who knows: she might even succeed and Britain will stay, half in, half out of the European Union forever.

Then there’s the damage it will do to the Conservative party. For the price of keeping their salary for a couple more years, or for the satisfaction of propping up their liberal elite interests and shafting us plebs yet again, these selfish, purblind, spineless fools are going to render their party unelectable.

But the far more serious problem is what this will do for the state of democracy in Britain. Most of these Tory MPs represent constituencies that voted Leave, yet have persistently sought to undermine that vote with their schemings and their manoeuvrings. Their decision to keep May in office is a perfect example of this betrayal. How can Britain claim to be a representative democracy when the people in parliament hold the views of the voters they represent in such obvious contempt?

On the motorway, about 30 miles outside London is a big sign in a field that reads simply: “LEAVE MEANS LEAVE. NO DEAL – NO PROBLEM.”

https://www.breitbart.com/author/james-delingpole/
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Their determination to fuck their own comes from Brussels.  Long shanks offered land and title to the Scots, these turncoats were much cheaper.
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I hope you washed your ass today - it's about to be kissed by a King, er make that, a PM.
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More like a BM.

England is dead.

The West can't be saved and isn't even worth saving, if it doesn't get it's balls back.
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I'll probably be arrested for laughing at that.

Or even for watching it.
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How great were the Sex Pistols for the 3 seconds that they were great?
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Snær Pîlâjikson wrote
England is dead.
To wit, this from today's headlines:

"‘Daring’ Boys, ‘Caring’ Girls Banned from UK Ads in ‘Harmful Stereotypes’ Crackdown

Adverts showing a housewife looking after the family will be banned from next year in an industry-wide crackdown on “harmful stereotypes” which researchers allege contribute to “real-world gender inequalities”.

The Committees of Advertising Practice (CAP), which creates and maintains advertising codes in Britain, on Friday published guidance on depicting gender stereotypes ahead of new rules coming into force in June 2019.

An ad that depicts a man being adventurous juxtaposed with a woman being delicate or dainty is likely to be unacceptable,” states the guidance, which claims that gender stereotypes can lower viewers’ self-esteem and “limit their aspirations and ability to progress in key aspects of their personal and professional lives with harmful consequences for them and for society as a whole”.

Adverts which depict a boy as “daring” and a girl as “caring” are similarly “likely to be problematic”, as well as promotions showing men as being more capable at DIY or parking a car and women excelling at childcare or cleaning, according to the document."
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Read that again - banned.  How dare advertisers show boys doing action?  How long before the UK literally bans ads for MISSION IMPOSSIBLE and the like?

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/14/stereotypes-banned-uk-ads-harmful/
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Ever get the feeling you're just being fucked with?
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